This post is simply to link to another amazing blog post (or more specifically the comments section).
http://nakedpastor.com/2014/09/tony-jones-on-mark-driscoll-what-came-first-the-thug-or-the-theology/
Here's a quick summary:
Mark Driscoll, mysogynist - asshole - mega church leader - gets caught being abusive to his congregation, accused of plagiarism and inappropriate use of church money.
Tony Jones - narcissistic - Emergent - blogger - writes a blog saying "It could have happened to any of us." Wow, Tony! No, I don't think this could have happened to anyone but a power hungry prick. Takes one to know one, right?
So David Hayward (nakedpastor) does a cartoon and blog post about all of this.
As of this post, it's at 774 comments. Tony's ex-wife came on and cut loose about the horrors she experienced with him and the Emergent movement leaders. Some of these leaders, including Tony, came on trying to silence her. She continued on. Other leaders came on and apologized for how they'd treated her. More people came forward sharing their own stories of spiritual abuse. It's been horrifying, wonderful, sad and healing. Spiritual abuse happens everywhere....but people are now speaking up and not hiding.
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Sunday, September 21, 2014
You are not being persecuted for Jesus, Crossing Church
Just watched the last of The Crossing Church's sermon series "Taste & See". Though the sermon was preached to the church, it was really just a pep rally to get the congregation to bring more people to church. (Church growth = $$$) The Crossing has done everything from outright public shaming to make their people bring more to their church (ex. - putting invite cards on every chair and making everyone stand "before God" to commit to giving them out) to the more subtle ways, such as this sermon.
Pastor Eric Dykstra went through various ways that people react to hearing the Gospel. The first he calls Rejection - "the enemy steals some peoples' understanding". "It's not that they don't understand - The Evil One STOLE their ability to understand." - referencing 2 Corinthians 4:4. So if I don't believe like you, with your interpretation, then Satan has confused me?
He goes on to say that, "You can't convince anyone to believe. It's the Holy Spirit's job." "they don't have deep roots - they fall away as soon as they have problems" "we stay in faith and grow past our problems" "they tithed once" "you stay in faith until you see it" So if someone's faith dies, then why didn't the Holy Spirit kick in and help? Provide comfort? This doesn't make any sense at all. So what happened to me? Because I did believe. I did. I was baptized twice. I gave, gave and gave some more. I was "in the faith" for decades.
The real fun comes at minute 26. "Persecution usually looks like false accusation, slander, mockery or lying...." Oh hell, you aren't being persecuted for Jesus. I am mocking you because of the dumb ass things you say that hurt people. Big difference. Oh and your reference to the End Times was hysterical.
Yes, I did get "the life sucker punched out of them"...by you Crossing Church.
So he says at the beginning that the Holy Spirit is in charge of bringing people to Jesus. Not you. You're off the hook. Yeah! Then the best scripture twisting moment is at minute 42. "those who believe produce fruit - do you have any?" "your life is going to lead someone to Jesus...you've gotta keep saying the Gospel until someone comes to FAITH!!!!" At minute 46:20 he says that "you're gonna be the one to do it". Minute 44 "you get to do this church!!" Um, no. Producing fruit has to do with the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, kindness, etc... People coming to Jesus is not a test of your faith and it's so sad to think how many in that Crossing Church audience felt the shame of that ridiculous statement.
It's the same old song and dance. The Crossing Church is once again putting the weight of the world on the shoulders of those who attend. As I've said before, Big Give expectation will be soon.
Pastor Eric Dykstra went through various ways that people react to hearing the Gospel. The first he calls Rejection - "the enemy steals some peoples' understanding". "It's not that they don't understand - The Evil One STOLE their ability to understand." - referencing 2 Corinthians 4:4. So if I don't believe like you, with your interpretation, then Satan has confused me?
He goes on to say that, "You can't convince anyone to believe. It's the Holy Spirit's job." "they don't have deep roots - they fall away as soon as they have problems" "we stay in faith and grow past our problems" "they tithed once" "you stay in faith until you see it" So if someone's faith dies, then why didn't the Holy Spirit kick in and help? Provide comfort? This doesn't make any sense at all. So what happened to me? Because I did believe. I did. I was baptized twice. I gave, gave and gave some more. I was "in the faith" for decades.
The real fun comes at minute 26. "Persecution usually looks like false accusation, slander, mockery or lying...." Oh hell, you aren't being persecuted for Jesus. I am mocking you because of the dumb ass things you say that hurt people. Big difference. Oh and your reference to the End Times was hysterical.
Yes, I did get "the life sucker punched out of them"...by you Crossing Church.
So he says at the beginning that the Holy Spirit is in charge of bringing people to Jesus. Not you. You're off the hook. Yeah! Then the best scripture twisting moment is at minute 42. "those who believe produce fruit - do you have any?" "your life is going to lead someone to Jesus...you've gotta keep saying the Gospel until someone comes to FAITH!!!!" At minute 46:20 he says that "you're gonna be the one to do it". Minute 44 "you get to do this church!!" Um, no. Producing fruit has to do with the fruits of the spirit: love, joy, peace, kindness, etc... People coming to Jesus is not a test of your faith and it's so sad to think how many in that Crossing Church audience felt the shame of that ridiculous statement.
It's the same old song and dance. The Crossing Church is once again putting the weight of the world on the shoulders of those who attend. As I've said before, Big Give expectation will be soon.
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